Let's not fight among ourselves, but rather see the article as kung fu=20 practice. Spotting weakness in [other people's] strategy will hopefully=20 prevent us from repeating it. Matt On 02/10/2010 23:23, Chris McSweeny wrote: > I'll give you that the first debugging step should have been to revert > to the last known good solution - though that's also worth reminding > people. But you're telling me that hyperterminal mangling 0D0A pairs > isn't useful information (it's the sort of thing I'd always check for, > but then I do a lot of moving between Windows and Unix domains where > such issues are normal, and I'd kind of expect HT to do that)? The > thing is, you seem to be suggesting that there is no useful > information in that webpage, when your own experience of people asking > you FAQs should suggest it's anything but - not everybody knows the > stuff you consider to be "basics". > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Olin Lathrop = wrote: >> Chris McSweeny wrote: >>> I'm loving all the smugness on this thread. Presumably nobody on here >>> has ever made a silly mistake? >> We've probably all made dumb mistakes, but the difference is we realized= it >> was due to our own stupidity and didn't write up a web page making it so= und >> like a legitimate gotcha. This software guy isn't a moron for making a >> mistake or just forgetting a checksum. He's a moron because he tried to= get >> away with something stupid, used poor debugging strategies, wasted 3 day= s as >> a result, and still thinks he ran into a gotcha worth warning others abo= ut. >> >> >> ******************************************************************** >> Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products >> (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ& list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> --=20 Best regards, Matthew Rhys-Roberts Electronics Design Engineer Nu Instruments Ltd. www.nu-ins.com Tel. +44 (0)1978 661 304 ext 117 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .