I was toying with the idea of making a self-powered logic probe. I had the idea of collecting energy through a 10K ohm resistor into a 10 uf= capacitor. When the voltage at the capacitor reached a selected level, it would trigge= r an SCR which would dump the capacitor energy through an LED. I built the SCR out of a 2N3904 NPN transistor and a 2N3906 PNP transistor. See http://www.wftelectronics.com/projects/DN20101003002/ For Z1 I used a 1N4148 which was forward biased. I assumed this would prov= ide about .7 volts. I thought the capacitor would charge up to VLED + VZ1 + VT and then the SCR= would fire and sink current through the LED. [ VLED is voltage drop of LED ; VZ1 is the voltage drop of the zener ; VT i= s the trigger voltage of the SCR which I assumed would be .7 volts ] Once the capacitor voltage decayed low enough, I thought the SCR would turn= off and the sequence would repeat. I expected a series of light flashes from the LED. Instead, it appears the SCR stays turned on all the time and the LED is dim= ly glowing with the current supplied through the 10K resistor. If I disconnect the SCR and short the LED to ground, I get a brief bright f= lash. I checked the transistors with a DMM and they do not appear to be damaged. Gus --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .