Am I behind the times or is it 'common knowledge ' that Microchip have=20 dropped the Hitech 24F and DSPic compiler? Just ambling through the online shop and saw that only the Microchip=20 version is now available and the HiTech one marked 'not for new projects'. Colin -- cdb, on 30/09/2010 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .