> but I suspect later in the day this make no sense either. maybe needs to > be off list? Don't listen to me I should be in bed 3 hrs ago :-) >> uphill, both ways, in the snow, no shoes, bottom of a lake, cardboard bo= x ... . Monty Python. 3 Yorkshiremen. Oft quotes in similar contexts. Not that I've ever actually seen it - just heard it oft quoted. >>> to address your equating ... >> That sort of thing really really really should be quoted in full >> context ... Doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense. You'd have to have been following = it. It was making a severe point as to how past events can and do shape us - even though not visible to others. R --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .