Russell, I'm very very busy with work and have no time to address your equating "so= =20 do mise" with "hurtful words" etc, but I wanted to very quickly comment on= =20 this: > A while ago I proposed (and suggested it several times since) a simple > solution that will satisfy, to a reasonable extent, all parties. Olin=20 > agreed > that it was fair, it would make the victims feel that justice had been=20 > done > on their behalf, and it will reduce the admin workload. Why you refuse to > even try the policy on a limited time basis, is beyond me. ---------- The detail of what you suggested now totally escapes my recall BUT I do remember that at the time I considered it unworkable and AFAIR tantamount to giving in rather than addressing the problem. (Serious comment.) ---------- My posts are far less numerous than yours. Please do a quick search, I=20 believe it should not take you more than 5 minutes to find the relevant=20 messages. If you are serious about discussing its merits, please start a ne= w=20 thread. Vitaliy=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .