> I dare anyone to come up with the most hurtful language they > can muster, call me the worst names they know, and I would > gladly take that abuse over the pain of a papercut You might do if you were expecting it. I've had a couple of occassions when completely out of the blue someone got extremely abusive, leaving me very much taken aback and genuinely wondering "Where TF did *that* come from ?" On both occassions it was not me that was the problem, but the persons were venting and I happened to be in right place at the right time. Even if they had gone berko to a lesser degree, things are still said which are not quickly forgotten If I'd known some sort of venom was coming my way, deserved or not but directed at me personally nevertheless, I'd have been prepared and not got anywhere near as upset Joe * * ********** Quality PIC programmers http://www.embedinc.com/products/index.htm --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .