>>> It's not just the "management". A few years back his fellow members vot= ed >>> 2:1 to maintain the status quo. >> That's actually highly untrue - but I'm not blaming anyone for >> thinking it is true. I observed what was and wasn't done at the time >> and what questions were put and why. For various reasons I have >> slightly more insight into what happened overall. > Russell, prove it. Already offered. Conditions above. > You publicly call me a liar (for all intents and purposes), Not at all. Read my lips /words as above. Note >> ... but I'm not blaming anyone for thinking it is true. " No blame. Just need all the facts. > but offer no proof whatsoever. More input offered as above BUT part of that is reading the whole material. One Swallow doth not a summer make. > The email dated 2008/06/09 (of which you are also a > recipient) is hardly ambiguous. No? > I'm not going to sign any NDAs Your choice. "Signed" and NDA were of course figurative constructs. Blood of firstborn may give so clue on that :-). > (my word > should be good enough), but I will gladly listen to your arguments off-li= ne > and offer a public retraction of my comments if the preponderance of > evidence warrants it. The point of an NDA is that it offers a mutually tightly agreed to basis for interaction on a subject. In this case "public retraction" would probably be in violation of the depth of NDing desired. > I'm not saying I agree with the majority, or that I am satisfied with the > process or the outcome. I simply stated the fact that the majority of tho= se > who answered the question of whether Olin should be moderated, voted in h= is > favor. I'm not saying I disagree with the reasonableness of your understanding - just that it's based on incomplete information which leads to misleading conclusions. This is not overly important as long as important future actions and decisions and understandings are not based on this understanding. As long as sleeping dogs are let lie all is OK enough. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .