On 23/09/10 22:05, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Robin Abbott wrote: > =20 >> I am surprised by the blowing of the chip on 12V applied to MCLR >> =20 > You shouldn't be. This is very clearly spelled out in the datasheet righ= t > where you'd look for it. The third line down under Absolute Maximum Rati= ngs > specifies -300mV to 6V as the range. Since 12V> 6V, there should be no > surprise that it goes poof at 12V. > > =20 >> as all inputs are protected by static protection diodes which can >> usually handle several mA which is below the current limit of most >> programmers. >> =20 > So let me get this straight. You guess how the circuitry is implemented, > and based on that guess, you decide you know better than the PIC designer= s > and that the absolute maximum limits published in the datasheet are wrong= !!? > I won't bother explain then what is wrong with your guess since I expect = to > have even less credibility than the datasheet. > > Or if I got this wrong I apologize, but then please do show us a copy of > your personal exemption certificate for being allowed to violate the laws= of > physics. > =20 Keep in mind you aren't allowed to express surprise here when IC's you=20 haven't done detailed research on behave differently to what you have=20 experienced in the past and extrapolated based on a plausible model. Not knowing something and being curious as to how things works makes you=20 an idiot. Oh wait no, that's just Olin being a troll, my bad. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .