Philip Pemberton wrote: > 2) The MCLR pin can't handle 12V. This is true of all the 3.3V only PICs, which includes the 18FJ, some 18FK, 24F, 24H, and 33F. > MCLR on these chips is specced to run at about 5V *absolute maximum*. This was one of the motivations behind our LProg PIC programmer. It only targets the 3.3V PICs. These use normal Vdd voltages only, and a different mechanism to enter programming mode. The LProg can't fry such chips becaus= e it only produces 0 - 3.3V signals. http://www.embedinc.com/products/lprog. It is also the lowest cost PIC programmer that actually adheres to the specs. It doesn't play fast and loose with USB voltages, try to steal powe= r from signal lines, etc. The LProg will be available from microchipdirect very soon. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .