Denny Esterline wrote: > I'm using a HV programmer and didn't think I needed to ground LVP?? You should always make sure LVP is low during normal high voltage programming. Keep in mind that part of normal programming is doing a bulk erase, which will default the LVP to enabled. So even though your code may disable it, it is enabled during most of programming. The programming specs usually say LVP is irrelevant during high voltage programming, but that is misleading at best. I've seen cases where I'm not so sure that is true. There are also times the programmer needs to reset the chip and therefore get into and out of programming mode. LVP asserted could case trouble during those times, even if it is then ignored when high voltage is applied to Vpp. More information about programming is at http://www.embedinc.com/picprg/icsp.htm. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .