Posted under PIC because this rather long rant relates directly to my=20 frustrations with the J-series PICs. I've been prototyping some new hardware, based around a PIC18F85J50 and=20 an FPGA. The FPGA handles the number crunching, the PIC is a=20 general-purpose garden-variety USB to parallel bridge with some smarts=20 (the FPGA allows it to share the ACQ RAM). The FPGA, however, is not the problem. The PIC is. 1) The pin-one marker on my parts is ambiguous. There are two round depressions in the chip face; one is a moulding=20 mark, the other is the Pin 1 marker. How do you tell them apart? Hold=20 the chip with the text horizontal and the Microchip logo at the top. Pin=20 1 is at the bottom left. Also, the moulding mark has a bit of text=20 inside it, though you need a strong magnifier and a bit of chalk (or a=20 paint marker and some IPA) to see it. This cost me one chip. =A34 down the pan. Thanks, Microchip. 2) The MCLR pin can't handle 12V. MCLR on these chips is specced to run at about 5V *absolute maximum*.=20 The real limit is Vdd (usually 3.3V). If you change the device type=20 during an MPLAB run, MPLAB may not save that device type if it crashes... I just had an MPLAB crash. Restarted, and selected the PICKit2. MPLAB=20 had reselected the PIC18F252 I was using before. BANG goes another chip.=20 =A38 down the pan. I think I'm going to solder a 4.1V Zener diode across the MCLR test pad=20 and a conveniently located ground via... Tomorrow I get to fire up the SMD workstation and replace this chip.=20 Which is going to be great fun since it's surrounded by 0603 decoupling=20 capacitors and my vacuum pick-up pen is shot. Blu-tak on a cocktail=20 stick, anyone? And I haven't even gotten to a point where I could upload the LED=20 blinker or FPGA boot test code yet. AARGH. Sometimes it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps=20 in the morning... I'm going to bed. TTFN, --=20 Phil. piclist@philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .