> That makes about 5-8 km/h more in average with the same effort but I hav= e some > doubts if that much achievements could have been achieved by some > lubricants. I guess it would need some measurements to be sure here, it w= as > only my speculation. Advise top speed "before and after" and I'll have a guestimate of power difference. An estimate of your "frontal area when riding at top speed would help - otherwise I'll use my own estimate. Or - remarkably good approxxxximation - Power loss to aerodynamics ~~~=3D 0.5A V^3 (A m^2 frontal area, V m/s) That's at sea level BUT rough enough that you'd have to get rather high to matter. (eg Mono Lake to Yosemite you *may* perhaps being to notice). A TdFmotor in your down tube probably helps more :-). Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .