Agreed, on the cleaner, could have listed a whole bunch of things that=20 people have around the house that will do the job including kerosene,=20 and it's cousin diesel fuel. The paraffin is inexpensive, locally available= .. For the ball bearings, I use a good quality automotive lithium chassis=20 grease. I buy it by the box of 12 tubes, think about 14 fluid ounces per=20 tube. Currently using Shell SD2 grease @ under $5.00/tube. Should be=20 able to find it at truck stops, auto parts, and farm equipment dealers.=20 And as I said, on the downhill, our bikes are generally the quickest.=20 And that's both me at 6', 200 lbs, and wife at 5'-6", 130 lbs., and I=20 did say gentle downhills, where speeds are relatively low, say 15 mph=20 where air fiction is low. But yes, there are other items, like those 27=20 x 1.25 tires inflated properly. On 9/17/2010 11:06 AM, John Gardner wrote: > I did as Carl does for many years - Paraffin. Wax, not kerosene, > though kerosene is an effective cleaner. > > Sheldon Brown recommended kero in a pop bottle - Add chain, > cap,& shake... > > Till I got old& lazy - White Lightning works great. > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .