If a drop of pitch drops in a bell jar and nobody is there to see it (and the webcam misses it too), does it make a sound? Located in Australia, 8 drops of pitch have fallen from this apparently solid lump since 1930 - the last in 2000. Webcam monitored nowadays but Murphy intervened to ensure that nobody has ever seen a drop fall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_drop_experiment http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/physics_museum/pitchdrop.sht= ml http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/University_of_Queensland= _Pitch_drop_experiment-6-2.jpg http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/physics_museum/pitch2.g= if This clock has run on "atmospheric power (in New Zealand) since 1864, but has stopped or been stopped very occasionally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Clock This electric bell has operated "almost continuously" since 1840. This could be easily replicated with a modern lithium primary cell for a life of 10+ years. Their battery is obviously made of sterner stuff - but nobody knows what. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell Russell McMahon Ref: David Daniel --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .