>>What brand is the uv flame sensor? I have a Hamamatsu "R2868 FLAME >>SENSOR UV TRON=AE R2868" that works fine in broad day light - in direct >>sun light, it does not fire. But a BIC lighter at 15 feet away is=20 >>detected. This does sound like the kind of thing where widely different results could= =20 be achieved with different brands of sensors - angle of operation,=20 wavelength bandwidth and sensitivity will likely be quite different between= =20 them, so I'd grab a few different ones to try out. If the sensor is very=20 close and static can't you just reduce the sensitivity enough to prevent=20 false triggering but always detect the spark? Random (probably not much good) ideas for non UV solutions - what about a=20 simple inductive/capacitive sensor (a few turns of wire wrapped around the= =20 spark lead or similar) with a high resistance voltage divider->fet input=20 opamp->PIC etc. Or some radio pickup, or maybe an infrared sensor as well=20 as/instead of the UV sensor: http://www.cvtechnology.com/pdfs/articles/TrueInfraredvsSparkDetection.pdf Or a video detection system? :-) http://papers.sae.org/1999-01-2387=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .