> What I was thinking if that is > possible to write a firmware to save fuel based on intelligent accelerati= on? I seem to recall that Porsche looked at most economical methods and decided that rapid acceleration to target speed was better than a slow increase. Your slowing up hills and accelerating down is a variant of the time honoured "Rolls canardly" method. (Rolls down one side and can 'ardly get up the other). Long ago I had an accident that punctured a vehicles radiator. The car was probably dead anyway and I decided to try and get it home as was. Most of the trip was on a motorway - including crossing out steeply humped harbour bridge. I accelerated to slightly above legal speed limit (we have a 10 kph allowed tolerance) as rapidly as possible and then shut off the engine and coasted until speed dropped to too low fro comfort on a motorway. It was interesting to see how little the engine seemed to need to be used. I got the vehicle home - a distance of about 20 km - without any evident engine distress. - although the lack of engine water would lead to the temperature gauge not reading. Not a method I'd recommend except in dire emergencies, but it seemed to work. It would be interesting to know what amount of heating occurred. Long long long ago I was driving an old (1951?) side valve Hillman home from work when it started behaving badly. I pulled over and there was a strange crackling and popping sound from the engine. Bonnet (hood) up and - oh dear - smoke pouring from the engine. I then realised that the sound was oil boiling ! :-). The cooling system had lost all water during the day and there was no indication of this until the engine started to "tighten up" [tm]. After cooling system repairs the car continued to give good service. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .