And where, pray tell, are they getting the water to clean all those mirrors= ? Is the labor free? Maybe the desert animals will brush the mirrors off with their tails, or the winds of dust storms will clear some of the old dust of= f increasing output just like it does for the mars rovers. What about maintenance of the engines themselves? Do you seriously believe = a mechanical device (of any kind) is going to keep operating for 20 years so you can break even? These farms are nothing more than a tax right off and an advertising bullet for the power producers. Local, individual PV and wind power generation is the way to go, with nuke plants to fill in at peak load evening hours.=20 People need to get over themselves on the nuke issues... Coal puts more radiation in the air every year than all the nuke plants ever have, and the dust, toxins, and smog are killing far more people with asthma, lung cancer= , and poison in the water than any nuke accident has; civilian or military.=20 Modern nukes are safer than the ones that have failed in the past.=20 Nike waste is a non-issue. It was radioactive when you took it out of the ground, we used some of the total energy of the system, so it has, over all= , less energy now (yes, it has a shorter half life so it is more radio /active/, but the total radiation emitted will be less). So put it back where you found it and feel good about reducing the overall toxicity of the planet. Why do people think that humans make all the things that they are afraid of= ? Humans don't make the fuel radioactive... it comes out of the ground that way. We concentrate it, but the destructive potential stays the same. We don't /make/ "nuclear waste" it's been in the ground all along. Mother Nature even runs a few fission reactors in the earth herself...=20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor -- James --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .