> For many purposes 'high speed steel' drills are liable to be good > enough and are much more forgiving HSS have just about no life at all with FR4, particularly the smaller diameters, 0.5 - 1mm used for component holes. They blunt after a few dozen holes. I'd not recommend them for anything but very occassional use. If you've many 3mm holes to do then cobalt or tungsten carbide are much more economical in the long run > You don't want to handhold a drill when using small TC bits I find the complete opposite to be true, but maybe it's the bad experiences I've had with poor drill presses. I can't recall ever breaking a bit when hand-drilling. You do get a better feel for what the bit is doing Joe * * ********** Quality PIC programmers http://www.embedinc.com/products/index.htm --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .