On 5 August 2010 21:47, RussellMc <apptechnz@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Iain wants to see this.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Kristin too for 2 reasons (1. Dolphins. 2=
.. Theory of mind)
>
> Well worth watching for the Dolphins + cool value.
> Especially worth watching by anyone interested in theory of mind, animal
> communications, animal thinking & intelligence etc.
>
> Apart from being amazing to watch, this may have greater implications.
> Dolphins appear to have both created a fun complex behaviour / game, pass=
ed
> it on to their fellows by demonstration and have a good understanding of =
the
> practical mechanics involved.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://bit.ly/DolphinBubbles
>
> If this was just amazingly cool and unbelievable I probably wouldn't post
> it.
> There's far too much cool stuff around these days :-).
>
> However - it seems there may be something previously unseen happening her=
e.
> Assuming that this is not an elaborate hoax. "Truth or fiction" make a
> statement which indicates that the video did come from Orlando Seaworld B=
UT
> that does not prove the mechnism.
> http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/dolphin-rings.htm
>
> However, if not a "setup" =A0then:
>
> I don't know if this behaviour is unique to Dolphins at Seaworld in Orlan=
do
> Florida.
> Gargoyle is uncertain. Reference to Seaworld at San Diego produced the sa=
me
> video.
> I found no other video or location in a quickish search - work calls alas=
..
>
> If generic then as you were, watch the fun video, sorry to have bothered
> you.
>
> BUT if this only occurs at Orlando then
> - A Dolphin produced an interesting effect, almost certainly accidentally=
..
> - It noticed the effect and wanted to reproduce it.
> - It managed to reproduce it consistently.
> - Others saw the 'game' and wanted to copy it and did copy it.
> - The Dolphins know that they can manipulate the rings to achieve various
> consistent effects.and do so. How much control and how much knowledge is
> uncertain.
> - IF this is unique then the knowledge could presumably be transferred to
> other Dolphins by bringing in as student for a while or sending out a
> teacher.
> - What implications has this got for our knowledge of Dolphin learning,
> thinking ability, communications, ... .
>
> Back to work
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Russell
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Russell,

I watched it on my laptop without sound. Is there any explanation as
to why the bubbles don't float to the surface?

And yes, it is an interesting example of animal behavior.  If it can
be passed from one dolphin to another, then the "training" phase could
be interesting.

RP

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