Speaking of camera flashes: In my first job in this industry years ago, I was told of a visit to a=20 large chicken farm by coworkers who were investigating the possibility=20 of creating an egg grading system for them. In the course of the visit, and before the client could stop it, one of=20 our company personnel snapped a picture with a flash in a large chicken=20 coop, I'm told with hundreds of chickens. You can imagine what happened next. :-) Mark Skeels Engineer Competition Electronics, Inc. TEL: 815-874-8001 FAX: 815-874-8181 www.competitionelectronics.com Olin Lathrop wrote: > Marcel Duchamp wrote: > =20 >> Light into eprom windows can and usually does affect the operation. I >> have seen A/D counts vary when light shines into the window. >> =20 > > One of my earlier PIC projects wasn't working. As I reached over to put = a > scope probe on some pin, it started working. Then I noticed that just > moving my hand nearby made it work. I thought maybe MCLR was floating an= d > the capacitance to my hand was making it flip, but MCLR was driven well > enough. It finally turned out to be that moving the hand between the PIC > and the nearby window made it work because that reduced the light hitting > the die of the JW part. Since then I always put stickers over the window= s, > even if just for short testing. > > =20 >> And once had a system fail in a spectacular fashion from a camera >> flash >> going off. In a development environment, the windows are usually left >> open ready for another trip through the uv eraser. A windowed PIC was >> driving some fets for motor control. The customer came to see how >> things were going and whipped out a camera and snapped a photo. Bang! >> All fets were turned on at once and shorted the nicad battery pack >> blowing out the fets. >> =20 > > Another PIC project was a rotating LED display. I had just added the > feature so that a bunch of units could be strung together and all control= led > from a single serial port. It seemed to work, then everything got shippe= d > off to a show in Chicago. At the show things worked until someone took a > picture of the booth. All the displays went down instantly. > > We were transmitting data from the base part to the rotating part by IR t= hru > the center of the hollow shaft. This data was just the UART output of th= e > transmitter. It turns out there was a little gap just below the IR recei= ver > on the rotating board, and a camera flash was bright enough to get in the= re > and be detected. The flash got interpreted as the reset command. > > =20 >> In a related area, early video camera elements were made from DRAMs >> with out covers over the chips. >> =20 > > I think that was a later development. I'm reasonably sure using DRAMs as > image sensors was pioneered by Bill Yerazunis of the Mitsubishi Electroni= c > Research Labs in Cambridge MA in the mid to late 1990s. You may remember > him as "Crash" on the NERDS team of some Junkyard Wars episodes. > > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .