> I was just thinking about gas milage for some reason. =A0... We used to use "per acre" for fun. As you'll be aware, mpg is distance per volume so has units of area^-1 while litres/100km (now in common use here) has units of area. One consideration for visualisation is that the diameter of a circular plot varies with the square root of area so eg 50% more consumption only produces 22% increase in diameter. Consistent with this reduction in apparent increase - I have found that people's estimates of the ratios of two circles is usually low, and the increased area in the added peripheral ring is less intuitively obvious. So - a linear graph with units of area may better serve the purpose. However, as this is an aid only, and as a square root law display was potentially possible, you could arbitrarily introduce some other law - eg say square law, so if you doubled consumption you'd get 4 times the height or length of display. If the display is in terms of maximum economy (mpg style) and the maximum value only slightly exceeds the best possible economy in practice, then the display will (hopefully) be towards the high end often when driving economically, but will reduce rapidly as you get more heavy footed. Parallel though train: I'd long thought that the vacuum gauge of yore, used as an economy aid, could be replaced by a true economy gauge. I hadn't thought about making it non linear. Modern electronics make the on the fly calculation of true fuel economy (aka mpg) trivial, whereas when vacuum gauges were all the rage it would have been extremely hard to make a true instantaneous mpg meter. (A relatively simple mechanical analog computer would probably have been the easiest and probably best solution). Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .