David Duffy (AVD) wrote: > One thing is still not perfectly clear - does the ICSP need to cycle > Vcc to program the chip? My limited testing showed that it did not, > but is this true for all chip families? For some PICs, the programmer must be able to control Vdd. The RealIce and I think the ICD3 generally expect the circuit to be powered. The ICD2 had = a external power adapter to be able to supply power itself. All of our programmers try to control Vdd, and it is therefore best if you do not try to power the board otherwise during programming. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .