> The major point that I made is, we don't know what REALLY happened > and, as somebody else pointed out, it is reasonably probable in such > cases that the vehicle is an unregistered, un-safety-checked=20 > (here termed Warrant of Fitness) uninsured death trap. And in the UK it is MOT (Which I believe stands for Ministry of Transport check). > Crushing such MAY be a proportionate response. But a RR Silver Shadow > could under unusual [tm] situations fall into the same category - > would it too be crushed? Should it be? Is the financial penalty > applied meant to be linear or proportionate or ... ? I believe a Rolls Royce has been crushed under this law. See http://www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/bmw-s-porsches-and-bentleys-are-crush ed_13467 The original case that I quoted that started this furore had the driver as unlicensed, because he didn't resit his test after his ban expired, he was also uninsured, and I cannot recall if his vehicle had a current MOT. But the nub of all this is that all three of the requirements for the car (insurance, MOT and Road Tax status - not mentioned above) are notified to the relevant government department that deals with Road Tax. Nowadays when I take my car for an MOT the garage has a computer link to notify that a fresh MOT has been issued. When I renew my insurance that is also notified.=20 Then when I go to renew the Road Tax for the car, the MOT and insurance are checked to see that they are current, and only then will the Road Tax payment be accepted, and the appropriate tax disk for the vehicle issued. So when passing an NPR camera if any of these 3 items have expired the vehicle gets flagged up and pulled over. But one of the other traps to this is that vehicles that are missing any of these 3 items are also highly likely to be involved in other forms of crime. In the same TV program there was a case where a driver had his mothers car, it got pulled over for some reason, and the driver smelt very strongly of cannabis, for which a search of the car was carried out, resulting in other prosecutions unrelated to the original offence. --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .