Barry Gershenfeld wrote >I found that CPU's rarely go bad (unless you force them to). This is,=20 >maybe > the third bad Z80 I've run into. > > I wanted to mention, that in my experience, with no EPROM installed, the= =20 > CPU > reads FF, and if I recall correctly that is an RST 7. More importantly, I > remember seeing the same "counting behavior" on the address lines as > everyone else was trying to produce. You should try this since it's as=20 > easy > as pulling the EPROM. Before I realized your chip was socketed I was=20 > going > to suggest breaking just the chip select pin--it should produce the same > thing. > > My guess about the "counting behavior" was that it continually tries to=20 > push > to the stack, and the stack pointer is put on the address lines each time > this happens. > > I still have an EPROM burner. Is this a rare thing yet? > --=20 I had tried looking around while running with the eprom pulled, but the=20 waveforms weren't as 'clean' as when I fitted the nop adaptor. I only recently bought an old Dataman S4 burner off ebay and have used it = a=20 lot. About a hundred chips so far. Surprisingly useful, though finding=20 blanks of the old chips eg 2716 etc is difficult. In fact in searching through my Z80 stuff I came across two 2716's in a box= =20 with an eprom burner I built myself back when I was studying processors 25= =20 years ago. The Dataman has been handy to make copies of the eproms fitted to boards=20 that come in, even if it is just a file stored on my pc. It's surprising ho= w=20 often people send me a board to repair with no eprom ... how am I=20 supposed to run it and fix it without one??? Regards, Roger=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .