On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:11:45 +0100, alan.b.pearce said: > > 2: Since probably the early 1990's, there have been torque converter > > clutches. > > Oh, they go back a lot further than that. They were very well > established when my father got the manual for his 1958 Wolseley 6/90, > which described the Borg Warner automatic gearbox and torque converter > that was available for that model. They would have been used since > automatic gearboxes became available on UK manufactured vehicles. I don't think you are both talking about the same thing. A torque converter clutch is a friction clutch inside the torque converter that locks the input and output together in order to defeat the torque converter and get a direct drive. Cheerful regards, Bob -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist