> > Whereas the Mitsubishi Chariot turbo I mentioned stops to vote before
> > kicking in the turbo. Once boosting its extremely good for overtaking
> > - but you need about 2 seconds before it starts to pull and another
> > two to hit peak power. Ridiculous.

> Russell,
> Unless you have a gasoline powered Chariot, it appears as though the
> only turbo Mitsubishi Chariot is a diesel.

So THATS why it ran so rough!!! :-)
But, no, it's petrol powered by design.
Here's a slew of 1996 ones - several petrol and a diesel or few.


http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/mitsubishi/chariot/1996_5/

> If that is the case,
> comparing your (however old) supercharged gas engine with your 19+
> year old turbodiesel is a little disingenuous. Note that your
> principles are correct, but exaggerated with your examples. A 20 year
> old turbo diesel is never a good example of a high performance
> turbocharged engine.

I'll ignore "a little disingenuous" on this occasion, pilgrim.
Especially as I didn't say what the quoting system may have made it appear.
I think posts from two + people have become severely mixed

I talked only about acceleration, gear change performance and turbo
lag. I did not discuss or mention 'gas economy' and have never owned a
diesel* vehicle (diesel posts were by someone else). My (dead) 1999 2
litre Mitsubishi Chariot turbo is indeed gasoline powered.

> One benefit of having a turbocharger is that you can tune the
> torque/HP response depending on the level of boost (via wastegate
> control) and nozzle size. This is different from a supercharger where
> basically your only control is changing the maximum level of boost at
> the red-line engine speed.

A turbo may indeed be more tunable than a supercharger system - but my
MR2 seemed to go well enough as is. Power is well down on modern
petrol turbo vehicles (MR2 is "only" 1600cc and under 150 HP standard)
but the very low weight and superb handling make it a great toy.
Whereas the Chariot's turbo lag of 2 seconds noticeable and 4 second
to full boost should never happen.



                    Russell

*  Apart from a marvellous Peugeot 307SW (SW = Sky Wagon = glass roof
over whole passenger compartment - superb viewing uro tourer)  which I
legally notionally owned but effectively hired in Europe as part of
the French government's manufacturer encouraging Eurocar system which
allows non EU citizens (only) to buy and sell a brand car for a few
weeks for holiday purposes at rates superior to those offered by car
hire companies. We chose the smallest diesel manual they had. Would
happily sit at 70+ mph on Autobahns (4 passengers and MUCH luggage)
and went to 100 mph a few times 'just to see'.
On the then hottest European Summer on record the air condtioned
glovebox alone (filled always with softdrink (bottled :-) ) , cheese,
butter ...) made the car a good choice.
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