On 17 July 2010 19:07, Jake Anderson wrote: > On 16/07/10 03:27, RussellMc wrote: >>> I choose manual because I ENJOY driving, I like the feel of a manual. >>> >> >>> I can't stand slushomatics, every time I have to drive one I cringe and >>> long for "the stick". There isn't much logic to it, there doesn't have >>> to be. >>> >> I too. >> I looked for a Mk1 MR2 Supercharger and expected to buy a manual. >> I ended up with an automatic. >> While I have long been an advocate of manual shift for performance >> and/or fun, the MR2 auto is a joy. >> Slushy it isn't and its performance is startling. >> When new (long long ago) the auto version =A0was THE fastest production >> car on earth 0-30 mph. The Supercharger as opposed to turbo largely >> accounts for that =A0but the auto shifting is marvellous, leaving you to >> hang on tight and make decisions. >> The auto does things a manual shifting driver never would bother to do. >> Rolling at say 30 kph in 2nd gear at light throttle. Car will start to >> accelerate in 2nd, kick into 1st, stay therefor the briefest moment >> and then shift back. You'd be tempted to think this may be a defect >> but it seems to 'know' well enough when it can win by doing such. Some >> autos actually work :-). >> >> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Russell >> > I think your comparing a "sports" auto with the average family car. > My father has a new ford 4wd thing. As soon as you think about > accelerating it changes down 3 gears and rev's the ass out of the engine. > Which is pointless because you just wanted to go up a slight hill. > > However if you want to overtake and floor it, it still changes down 3 > gears (eventually), revs the ass out of the engine and then when it gets > its act together the car actually starts moving. > > That's your standard auto. > > A great auto will beat a manual in some things, there aren't many great > automatics however. > I like CVT auto, it can do things you can't do with a manual. > > What I really hate about automatics is how they keep pushing when you > are trying to slow to a stop. I'd rather when the brakes are applied and > I'm under 20km/h the car popped itself into neutral. I hear that there > have been problems with pure electric cars in America because they lack > the "push" of the automatic engine and will roll backwards down a hill. > -- My daughter has a '93 Subaru Justy with CVT transmission. And, despite the low power I find it quite fun to drive. I like :- 1. The absence of creep you usually get with a typical auto due to the torque converter. (It has an elector-magnetic clutch) 2. It doesn't hunt around the gears on hills, just adjusts to the best ratio and stays there. I typically get abused in auto cars when climbing hills as I naturally give it a bit more, the auto then changes down, revs the sn... out of the engine & then changes up again. 3. It is smooth, no pauses as you take off down the road, just an even increase in speed. It even has a "sports" mode!! RP -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist