On 16/07/10 03:27, RussellMc wrote: >> I choose manual because I ENJOY driving, I like the feel of a manual. >> > >> I can't stand slushomatics, every time I have to drive one I cringe and >> long for "the stick". There isn't much logic to it, there doesn't have >> to be. >> > I too. > I looked for a Mk1 MR2 Supercharger and expected to buy a manual. > I ended up with an automatic. > While I have long been an advocate of manual shift for performance > and/or fun, the MR2 auto is a joy. > Slushy it isn't and its performance is startling. > When new (long long ago) the auto version was THE fastest production > car on earth 0-30 mph. The Supercharger as opposed to turbo largely > accounts for that but the auto shifting is marvellous, leaving you to > hang on tight and make decisions. > The auto does things a manual shifting driver never would bother to do. > Rolling at say 30 kph in 2nd gear at light throttle. Car will start to > accelerate in 2nd, kick into 1st, stay therefor the briefest moment > and then shift back. You'd be tempted to think this may be a defect > but it seems to 'know' well enough when it can win by doing such. Some > autos actually work :-). > > > > Russell > I think your comparing a "sports" auto with the average family car. My father has a new ford 4wd thing. As soon as you think about accelerating it changes down 3 gears and rev's the ass out of the engine. Which is pointless because you just wanted to go up a slight hill. However if you want to overtake and floor it, it still changes down 3 gears (eventually), revs the ass out of the engine and then when it gets its act together the car actually starts moving. That's your standard auto. A great auto will beat a manual in some things, there aren't many great automatics however. I like CVT auto, it can do things you can't do with a manual. What I really hate about automatics is how they keep pushing when you are trying to slow to a stop. I'd rather when the brakes are applied and I'm under 20km/h the car popped itself into neutral. I hear that there have been problems with pure electric cars in America because they lack the "push" of the automatic engine and will roll backwards down a hill. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist