> I am under the distinct impression that, for at least some people, an > 'annoyed state' is perpetual, and that it is just waiting for an excuse > to manifest I'd say I'm not so much annoyed** as disappointed by how quickly "standards" slip. As with so many things in life, they are debased by inattention to or waiving of subtleties and details For example, using PICs in a literary context, the mnemonics are just the words. I would like to be a 'Shakespeare' programmer, but will likely not rise above a Harold Robbins generally, perhaps a Pinter on occassion. Because IMHO you can't always achieve elegance without detail, something I wish I had more time to put the effort into Joe ** I will admit to annoyance at the grating over-use of "actually" * * ********** Quality PIC programmers http://www.embedinc.com/products/index.htm -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist