> I understand that many folks live in an environment where cyber > vandalism is the norm but I take a different stance on WIFI sharing. The > only networks that I administer are church & family. My policy has been > to allow (and encourage) use by all. Visitors to our homes who bring > their laptops can always get to the internet without asking. I have > found that other churches have open systems that work well in the > parking lots for those who are traveling and might appreciate the > wireless access. Our church WiFi access point is located in a lower hall in a hollow of ground. It has never had security applied (my choice). Range is limited unless you know it is there and are "closish" or have a high gain antenna. So far (many years) no problems. That could of course change at any moment, but it is extremely useful for such things to "just work". On a few occasions in HK when the internet access that was meant to work didn't I have been pleased that there are a few systems , of the many almost invariably present but usually secured, that have allowed me the email access that I invariably need in such cases. AFAIK HK costs for typical users tends to be access rather than bandwidth biased - but hotels charge a ludicrous amount in inflexible arrangements - and the (recommended) 'low cost dive'* where I usually stay provides access at no extra charge. Despite this, when I freeload I'm conscious that such activity is potentially and/or actually theft** and that I am opening my system up to additional risks. (Comodo seems to work well). Free airport accesssing randomly discovered access points can be risky. HK provides free official service. Some other "harmonious societies" (including other than C') (thanks Vitaliy) have notionally free access but require passsport number, hat size and rights to soul of eldest child before providing access. I have read of people providing "free" access in such places from roaming gateways which then provide the baddies with acces to your data stream. On one occasion after logging into the HK airport system I found at next login that my access to my Google account was blocked - password invalid. I reset it using webmail access via their alternative email address password change facility and there seemed no damage done. It MAY be that that was a random unrelated event but as it is the only time it has ever occurred I suspect that I had a close brush with someone running a sniffer program or similar. I've also occasionally logged into a public system and dropped into a prior open session because somebodt else failed to log out before closing the browser. Always worth careful checking your logout if one is obliged to use Internet Cafes etc. I use "In private" access where available in such cases BUT this is usually not available as cafe systems usually tightly limit available features. If you want access to our system it works best from the conference table in the lower hall or the manse dining room. Back to work :-). To bed early / up VERY early to see if it works better ... . Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist