> > > > The compiler used to be available as a separate subscription for not mu= ch > > money. MSDN has gotten very bloated and expensive. You have to pay a = lot of > > money annually to just get the compiler updated. And now with the libr= ary > > available free online, MSDN is too much unless you're doing a lot of he= avy > > Windows development regularly. > = > I kind of agree here. It has all got pretty bloated and would be nice to = be able > to subscribe *just* for what you need. I do really like Visual Studio/.Net > though, it certainly makes life a lot easier development wise, and I thin= k it's > worth the money (although I'm sure some may not agree). MINGW is great to= o and I > have recently got into QT4, which I like very much now after some initial > frustration with learning a new tool. I would consider giving the VS Expr= ess > edition a go, nothing to lose and you might be pleasantly surprised. = > = > = I have done a lot of work with MSVC++ 6.0 and MFC and I found working with = C++ = in Visual Studio kind of confusing. On the other hand I really like working with C# in Visual Studio. So if the= OP = does not really need C/C++ explicitly I would recommend him to take a look = at = C#. That would require the .NET framework (around 20Mb for ver 2.0). /Ruben =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ruben J=F6nsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 ruben@pp.sbbs.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist