Oli Glaser wrote: >> and the piece of metal caught and kicked back. > > It seems that most injuries are caused this way from what I have > read. As far as I know none of the safety systems currently available > prevent this from happening, Not true. My table saw has little spring loaded grabber thingies designed not to let the wood slide backwards, for example. It's just a ordinary off the shelf table saw I got from Sears 25 years ago. The wood has to get far enough to catch on the grabber thingies, but they can help in a lot of cases. I am also concious of the plane of the spinning blade, and try not to stand in that plane. I often stand to one side enough so that if a small piece broke off and got flung by the blade, I wouldn't be in its path. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist