Ariel Rocholl wrote: > Not really. Maybe you are talking about a different thing, Yes. > but subscrition> not only exists to this date but it is also the simplest > and most efficient way to upgrade to VisualC++ and any other MS > product for development purposes. The compiler used to be available as a separate subscription for not much money. MSDN has gotten very bloated and expensive. You have to pay a lot of money annually to just get the compiler updated. And now with the library available free online, MSDN is too much unless you're doing a lot of heavy Windows development regularly. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist