Yes, I have to agree, some good points were made. > My original comment was addressed to Andrew, not Olin. I know Olin consid= ers > his style acceptable, so we agree to disagree. He is a much nicer person,= in > person. > > Admins are not royalty, nor are they prison guards. Admins are police > officers, meaning they're public servants with special powers. With power > comes responsibility, for example you have to be more polite/patient than > the average citizen. The power must also be checked, otherwise the cops w= ill > quickly start abusing it and hitting you over the head with a baton. > >> Admins are most effective when >> they never need to do anything and can be seen as a lurking power - >> benevolent or malevolent as you see fit to perceive them. > > Yes. Paine would say, "that government is best which governs least." > > >> By getting >> in the face of an individual admin onlist you pose an unnecessary >> personally based =A0challenge to the admins effectiveness overall. > > The admin got *in my face*, first -- and he did it publicly. > > >> Failure of admins to respond appropriately to such a challenge or to >> show solidarity makes admins look weak and powerless and reduces their >> effectiveness*. Responding appropriately would not be appreciated by >> you. Please throw down such gauntlets offlist. By all means send >> material to piclist-owner@mit.edu as desired - repeatedly if deemed >> necessary. > > Do you really want the PICList to be a "Harmonious Society"? :) > > Sorry, but allowing the admins to save face is not at the top of my prior= ity > list. You guys need to deal with the problem, instead you continue to swe= ep > it under the rug. -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist