Welcome Michael. List members may be interested to know where Michael is located. I assumed a US location, but the phone number suggested not. We have list members from all over the world - I'm not sure if we have any others from Israel. Wikipedia says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORT_Braude_College_of_Engineering *ORT Braude Academic College of Engineering,* established on a 30 acre area in a city of Karmiel , Israel . ... it serves as an academic, technological and scientific center for the Galilee ... offers a wide range of studies and training for careers in the latest technologies. At the present, there are more than 3500 students studying in Ort Braude - most of them are being trained for a B.Sc. degree in Engineering. Ort Braude considered to be one of the leading higher education institutions for Engineering in Israel . Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist