> it has to be said that the NZ goal was possibly offside Although the ball did touch a defender, so it would have been unkind not to award a goal. Slovakia's goal against NZ really was offside NZ 1 Slovakia 0 > anyway we did not play anything especially great - as we should have But the acting to get the penalty. tut-tut. I'm sorry, that was just cheating. It's no wonder some teams don't want replays and a video ref to get the Hollywood factor out of the game NZ 1 Italy 0 ;-) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist