> (And as 'football' I mean where you kick the ball with your feet, and not > when you pick up the ball and run'n punch each other :-) -- why do not you > call that game guys 'American Rugby' instead?) 1. This is why See here under "Fame" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby,_Warwickshire or here under "History" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football 2. There IS NO American Rugby. Not even US Rugby. Even if, mayhaps, some people may claim to play such a game. http://www.americanrugbynews.com/artman/publish/national/What_is_American_Rugby.shtml Americans can play Rugby, which is quite another matter :-). (Not everyone knows it, but there is ONLY NZ Rugby :-) ). 3. There is Gridiron, but it is not Rugby :-). R -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist