Michael Watterson wrote: > Ruben J=F6nsson wrote: > = >>> We make DMX LED controllers - the DMX front-end is a 65lbc179 that = >>> feeds a fast opto-isolator. The front end is powered with an = >>> isolated DC-DC converter. >>> >>> The 'lbc179 ** REQUIRES ** that you constrain its input signal to = >>> within its common-mode range. The easiest way to do that is to = >>> require that the installer uses shielded cable to transport the DMX = >>> signal, and to connect the drain wire at both ends. >>> >>> We don't have ground-loop problems because the DMX front-end is = >>> completely isolated from the rest of our circuitry. >>> >>> dwayne = >>> = >> So the shield is not connected to chassie/earth? >> = >> = > It would obliviate the point of isolated DMX if it was. > > This is the point I'm making. In fact if you are going between buildings = > it might even be illegal in some cases to interconnect the earths. > = But that's the point we're making. You're not interconnecting the = earths. You're connecting the common reference. That reference may or = may not be mains earth. There's no requirement for it to be earth - it = just needs to be a common reference. In the case of isolated RS485, do you have a common reference (often the = shield)? Yes! Is it mains earth? Not if both ends are truly isolated. As long as the I/O of only one device is earthed and the rest are = isolated, there's no problem. Ideally they are all isolated from mains = earth so that a single fault (common contacting earth) will have no ill = effect. So, we're all agreed that differential signals (RS485 for example) = travelling between places of differing earth potentials should be = isolated. That isolation doesn't negate the need for the common = reference conductor, it just means the I/O sections are floated with = respect to earth. David... -- = ___________________________________________ David Duffy Audio Visual Devices P/L Unit 8, 10 Hook St, Capalaba 4157 Australia Ph: +61 7 38235717 Fax: +61 7 38234717 Our Web Site: www.audiovisualdevices.com.au ___________________________________________ -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist