Michael Watterson wrote: > You can easily design an R485 interface that doesn't need a ground wire. > In fact adding a ground wire connected at both ends could result in > exceeding common mode limits in certain circumstances. If the common > mode voltage is high then you will have a problem of "ground " loop > current. Designing a better interface is a better solution. > Well, you seem to flying in the face of recommended and accepted practice then. As has been said previously, non isolated (from mains earth) RS485 interfaces can drag ground currents through the shield. A lot of the time, this is low enough that the connection suffers no ill effects. If you use RS485 as a 2 wire medium, the reference will usually be the mains earth. Yes, you have two data wires, but that mains earth is still providing the reference. (3rd wire) I'm ready to be convinced if you can show a solution for RS485 that uses only 2 wires, and no reference. Mind you, you don't get any points for presenting a solution that uses an LED as the receiver! David... -- ___________________________________________ David Duffy Audio Visual Devices P/L Unit 8, 10 Hook St, Capalaba 4157 Australia Ph: +61 7 38235717 Fax: +61 7 38234717 Our Web Site: www.audiovisualdevices.com.au ___________________________________________ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist