Roger Weichert wrote: > I'm working on some gear made by DeLaval which uses what they call the > "Alcom Bus" to communicate back to a central control. > > It is a simple 2-wire system that daisy chains from one unit to the > next, and requires a 150 ohm termination resistor at each end. There > is also a comment in the operation manual about NOT using shielded > cable. I've never heard of "Alcom bus". My guess from your description is that it's RS-422 with their own protocol on top of that. That fits with the chain topology, the need for terminators at each end, and the 0-5V signal range. RS-422 is basically a differential pair with each wire 0-5 volts. There are off the shelf line driver and receiver chips for that, so that's most likely what they used. The requirement to use unshielded cable is probably to guarantee symmetry between the two lines. If you use two conductor shielded cable, like common audio cable, then the outer conductor picks up all the external noise, which then becomes a differential signal. In a twisted pair, both wires pick up the same external noise so that it becomes a common mode signal, which the line receivers are specifically designed to ignore within a certain "common mode range". Cable with a twisted pair inside and a third conductor as the shield would be fine for preserving the symmetry between the two data lines, but would introduce ground loops that they may feel installation technicians wouldn't know how to deal with. It's also more expensive cable, so maybe they weren't thinking of that anyway. As for the protocol, most likely that is proprietary. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist