PICdude wrote: > 24 SOIC? Compact, compact, and more compacter. If you want a self-contained module, 24 SOIC is a physical impossibility. :) For example, the ISO drivers require that you pull up the K- and L-lines to Vbat+ via 510 ohm resistors. If you do the math, it becomes clear that even an 0805 doesn't have enough power dissipation. The fact is, microOBD 200 is currently the smallest commercially available OBD module in the world. The closest (and as far as I know, the only) competitor is literally x3 the size (and x2 the cost). > Actually a SIP > package would be nice. Actually, we built one last year: http://www.scantool.net/scantool/downloads/44/microobd-product_brief.pdf You could use it with 90-degree pins if you wanted to. We even have the development board for it. :) microOBD 200 was developed based on customer feedback. We made it physically smaller, functionally more flexible, and a DIP24 with real lead frames is a lot more stable mechanically, when mounted in a machined socket. > From what I know of the ELM327, I'm not sure > why you'd need so many interface pins. But I'll wait for your docs > before I think of hacking down the size. Look at the brief, it shows the pinout, w/ pin descriptions. The actual chip is a 28-pin TQFN, we plan to make it available as a stand-alone OBD chip later this year. If we get a sizeable order we'd be happy to make it available sooner. ;) > I'll chat with you offlist a bit later about some specifics. Please email me at vitaliy@scantool.net. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist