On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:10 AM, RussellMc wrote: >> Tamas Rudnai wrote: >> > Talking about Atmel shortage: At the Atmel site I have just came acros= s this >> > news (looks impressive to me, smaller than 10F200): > > =A0 =A0 =A0> > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/corporate/view_detail.asp?FileNam= e=3DF2_0514201_Worlds_smallest_flash_mcu.html > >> the larger SO package can mount on stripboard/veroboard direct if you >> split track along holes. >> That small chip needs a PCB or glue it on its back in an 8 pin DIP >> socket and solder fine wires. :-) > > Comes in SOT23-6 and DFN-8. > Up to 4 x ADC ( 8 bit) > Comparator. > 2 x PWM. > Vcc as ADC Ref. > > Comes in SOT23-6 and QFN8 > DFN is ~ 2mm x 2mm > SOT23-6 is functionally 2.5 mm x 3 mm so almost twice the area. > Not too many will care. Isn't the point of flash micros that they are reprogrammable? So the total board area should include the programming connector, if any... Then QFN v. SOT23 makes proportionally less difference. Or maybe the chips are preprogrammed at the factory? In that case, why not= OTP? Or maybe the idea is to have a more capable micro on the board somewhere, and use it as a programmer for its baby siblings? I know people on this list have talked about using multiple pic10f20x's. How do you program them? Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- = Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markrages@midwesttelecine.com -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist