Hmmm it's always interesting to look at these things, I am considering the = Atiny series for... tiny stuff. So tiny in fact milligrams are important. = As for inhaling, you have a point, these could become chocking hazards for = mice! (Call the press!) There are applications for extremely small package= s like this in any case (in my case a pager motor speed controller) and pic= o sized servo control system. The big problem is converting a PWM input in= to an analog control output. :D Real application, really crazy, (but fun) stuff. There are numerous applica= tions for these, as in swallow-able medical devices, LED dimmer control sys= tems, Christmas tree lights. You have a myriad of uses in under a second ri= ght there. The developer is the limiting factor for uses for such tiny devi= ces. Golf ball implanted strike count for golf (IE I only hit it 4 times! T= he golf ball states 5 hmmm). Stephen --- On Sat, 6/5/10, RussellMc wrote: > From: RussellMc > Subject: Re: [EE] World's Smallest Flash Microcontroller Package > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 6:10 AM > > =A0 =A0 =A0> > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/corporate/view_detail.asp?FileN= ame=3DF2_0514201_Worlds_smallest_flash_mcu.html > = > > Comes in SOT23-6 and DFN-8. > > Up to 4 x ADC ( 8 bit) > > Comparator. > > 2 x PWM. > > Vcc as ADC Ref. > = > > Comes in SOT23-6 and QFN8 > > DFN is ~ 2mm x 2mm > > SOT23-6 is functionally 2.5 mm x 3 mm so almost twice > the area. > > Not too many will care. > = > Note that the original ad had a link to a DFN8 / SOT23-6 > photo comparison > = > =A0 =A0 http://www.atmel.com/pressroom/photos/ATtiny.jpg > = > and > = > > Maybe Atmel has the smallest case but PIC 10F200 is > not far behind, > > available in > > 2x3(x1) mm DFN, and that has been true for a while > now. Please try to read > > between the marketing hype lines... > = > ATtiny4/5/9/10 data sheet here > http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc8127.pdf > = > IF the 10F200 is in fact 2mm x 3mm that makes it 50% larger > in body > area than the 2mm x 2mm AVR. > (2.05^2 max) > = > And IF the PIC is 1mm thick then it is > 50% taller than > the 0.6mm > (0.65mm) max AVR thickness. > = > I think the advertising hypers have valid grounds there > :-) > Just because both are inhalation hazards doesn't make the > ratios invalid. > = > For most things such size differences are wholly > irrelevant. For some > they make a vast difference. Maybe. > I hope never to be so unlucky that such differences are > relevant to > anything I do :-). > = > = > = > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Russell > = > -- = > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > = = -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist