Hello, I have a room (with good ventilation) that I want to heat with gas. Not on an ongoing basis, just for short times here and there, and not by much, maybe a few degrees C (single digits). I know those "infrared" gas burners (I don't know the proper name), where gas burns in a usually rectangular enclosure and creates a red glow that then radiates to the surroundings. This is what I wanted to get, but I'm having trouble finding such a burner here (in Brazil). So I thought that for heating up a room, it shouldn't really matter how exactly the gas burns... if I burn a kg of gas in such a burner, or if I burn it in a normal burner designed to heat up pots, the heat energy transferred to the surroundings (the room) should be the same. (Assuming that the burner efficiency is the same.) I understand that if you stand in front of such an infrared burner, you feel much warmer than if you stand in front of a pot heater burner, and that possibly the infrared burner heats the walls up more (rather than just the air), and therefore there may be a certain difference in heating up the room, but I imagine that the difference is small, despite the gut feeling that the infrared burner is "warmer". Do I miss something here? I could get some burners for chicken grills and mount a small panel with them (they are similar to the infrared burners I know), but if just using a ready-made burner for cooking has the same effect, I could spare myself the trouble. Thanks, Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist