On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Justin Richards
<justin.richards@gmail.com>wrote:

> > Thats me.  I am ok programing assembly but as this is in C I had to
> experiment.  I do use the simulator but as this program is a web server
> running in debug mode provides more information.  Again I have made some
> progress here but I have had to waste several program cycles to get there.
>

Use the simulator for such experiments, and then when it works great in the
simulated environment, put it on your chip. Other alternative is to learn in
other chip, like 18F4550 seems to be good choice if you want to learn 18F.
Once you know most stuff, you could write code in less error therefore no
need to keep re-programming your chip.

Tamas




>
> And even if you do wear it out, it's just a matter of replacing a single
> > chip.
> >
>
> I have considered this and have looked at this 100pin smd chip and the way
> it is mounted on the board to see how it can be removed without doing any
> damage.  It appears outside my current skill level.  So when/if it stops
> programing I will need to do some research on how it is done.
>
> I have read many previous post indicating that smd work is not too hard
> which gives me confidence but when I look at this chip I do wonder how.
>
> I heard of a technique where the legs are cut and then each leg can be
> individually removed but I can only see damage resulting.
>
> I do use a heat gun to remove components from time to time, but I cant see
> how to do this without damaging other components.
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