> I know what you mean, we had a secondary school student come to us for a > week work experience a few months ago. Set him any problem, and his first > instinctive reaction was to search Google. Yes. Whereas we seasoned greybeards bang our heads against the wall a while and THEN use Gargoyle. I''m learning though :-).(ie - using G' 1st can have some merit as long as it's not the only arrow in your quiver). I posit the thesis, and I'm not 101% sure of its truth, that Gargoyle is THE most valuable and useful engineering tool I have ever had. Its power obviously comes from the web resource which it mainly just stands on the shoulders of, but G's indexing and search capability are what makes it so utterly superb. Other pretenders probably are of approximately equal calibre by now, but so far G hasn't done enough wrong to persuade me to look beyond its capabilities. It does however seem to be getting worse in what and how it finds things and I look forward to a paradigm shift that is as great as was the shift from the marvellous Alta-Vista to the stunningly incredible Gargoyle. R "Gargoyle Master" (with diamonds) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist