> Have to say I'm wondering about hand-working these MCP1640 > DFN-8 packages though. MSOP8 is bad enough Same as Olin, I've been doing some small packages and some TQFP PIC32s recently too (using drag soldering technique mostly, but also hot air, especially for smaller parts, SOT5-6 etc) and the hardest part I find is to align the chip properly before applying heat, the liquid flux certainly helps to keep the chip in place, it's a lot harder without it (small dab of glue apparantly helps with tiny components like 1206 caps/resistors, though I have not tried this myself). I found that you don't have to be *so* exact with alignment with the hot air, as the surface tension of the solder usually pulls the chip into place when it melts, like with reflow soldering (especially with larger packages). Solder paste can be used also instead of applying regular solder to the pads, this also has the nice effect of holding the component in place until heat is applied. For the drag soldering, I really like the Pace (angled) miniwave tip (fine pitch version - http://uk.farnell.com/pace/1121-0564-p5/tip-fine-pitch-miniwave-pk5/dp/3120740) - I didn't get the Pace iron, just ordered 5 replacement microwave tips and used them in my standard (non temperature sensing) iron - had no problems yet, although I really should get another half decent iron - last one died but as yet I seem to be doing fine without it. Plenty of tutorials out there on soldering/reworking the SMD stuff, I think the main thing is using plenty of flux, plus a bit of practice. My next project is to rig up a small reflow oven.. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist