Michael Watterson wrote: > Three IR LEDs on a horizontal bar, occasionally pulsed A -> B -> C > then > C -> B -> A, appropriate distance from PIR. Or possibly even three > small Metal Oxide resistors! The PIR sensors I've worked with are not that sensitive to near IR LEDs. They work, but you'd need them close. LEBs (Light Emitting Bulbs) make great IR emitters that PIR sensors pick up easily. You don't need to run them at full voltage either. If you can see a orange glow, they're putting out plenty of IR. Used that way, they last pretty much indefinitely. Unlike resistors, they are actually intended to radiate. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist