> Don't ban high performane cars, ban low performance drivers. > But that will never fly in a politically correct world. I'll see your un-PC statement and raise you an un gear-head C one. "Don't ban high performacne cars, ban low performance drivers from driving them". ie, you can mod your car in accordance with regulations BUT/AND also have to pass an extra licence class to be allowed to use them. Fair? _____________ NZ major national newspaper headlines today something like: 'The teenager who had been 'drifting' came out of a side street and lost control of his vehicle. It mounted the footpath and struck an adult and two young children. One child died at the scene. The other is in intensive care". Same day another child was killed elsewhere in similar circumstances. Our national population is a tad over 4 million. Two in a day is a statistical unlikelihood but alas not a rarity here. Things are happening. Separating out the guys with the enhanced brakes and shocks from the urban drifters gets a bit hard. A bit of support from the responsible ones in dealing with the larrikins will probably help reduce the sort of blanket statements that started this sub-thread. R . -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist