>> If somebody is inside the car your screwed, If they have physical access >> to the wiring of the car your screwed, can bus hack or no. > Not only that, but can you trust the original factory software? I know Toyota's recent problem was hardware (I'm pretty sure), but it could have just as easily been a software issue. > This is just like that, off of my head. I think that tampering with a car's > systems should be illegal, and doing so should require a license of some sort, > and the tampering be entered into the car's paperwork by law. Same as > modifications to a car's mechanics or exterior lights must be and are. I also > think that there should be some kind of special license for cars modded for > racing, and that that should be made obvious from the outside of the car too > (different colored license plates etc). I'm not sure what country's laws you are referencing. Here in the US, the laws vary from state to state but in general we don't need to document any modification made to either software or hardware. Cars in most states do have to pass a yearly safety and emissions test. As for "modified for racing," that could be anything really, but there are plenty of cars that are super quick right off the show room floor. And they are not super expensive exotics either. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist